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In the post-Trump era, some red states have moved aggressively to rebuke the Biden administration at the local level and signal to voters what a Republican-led country might look like.
In Texas, immigration is a key battleground. Today, we speak to Hunter Schuler, a member of the National Guards, about why Gov. Greg Abbott has sent him and thousands of other security officers to the U.S.-Mexico border.
On today’s episode
Lulu Garcia-Navarro, a Times Opinion podcast host.
J. David Goodman, the Houston bureau chief for The New York Times.

Background reading
Operation Lone Star is an expensive and unusual effort to reinforce border security. But after a year, there is little to show for it.
Soldiers sent to patrol the border have complained of difficulties and a seemingly rudderless mission.
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Lulu Garcia Navarro contributed reporting.
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