The Moral Complexities of Working With Julian Assange

This episode contains strong language.

Gemma Lopez, 10, watched a movie in class that day. Jacob Albarado, a Border Patrol officer, was getting his hair cut when he heard there was a gunman at his daughter’s school, where his wife is a teacher. Ricardo Garcia, a hospital groundskeeper, can still hear the screaming of parents in the emergency room.

These are some of the stories of those who lived through the devastation of the shooting at Robb Elementary School.

Rick Rojas, a national correspondent for The New York Times.

Natalie Kitroeff, a correspondent for The Times.

Eduardo Medina, a reporter covering breaking news for The Times.

A memorial in Uvalde, Texas, for the 19 children and two teachers killed in the shooting at Robb Elementary School.
Callaghan O’Hare for The New York Times

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Rick Rojas, Natalie Kitroeff and Eduardo Medina contributed reporting.

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