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For the past decade, San Francisco has worked hard to turn its downtown into a vibrant hub, providing a model that other cities in the United States looked to emulate.
In the wake of the pandemic, however, many buildings and offices in the center of the city have remained empty.
What went wrong?
On today’s episode
Conor Dougherty, an economics reporter for The New York Times.
Emma Goldberg, a reporter covering the future of work for The New York Times.
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What lessons does San Francisco have for the future of downtowns in America?
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Conor Dougherty and Emma Goldberg contributed reporting.
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