The Sunday Read: 'Lovers in Auschwitz, Reunited'

This episode contains strong language.

A year and a half ago, the Times journalists Jodi Kantor and Karen Weise began examining labor practices at Amazon.

In the process, they met Christian Smalls and Derrick Palmer, two Amazon workers at a warehouse in New York, who had embarked on an improbable attempt to create the company’s first union. Last week, they did it.

We sat down Mr. Smalls and Mr. Palmer to ask them how it happened.


  • Jodi Kantor, an investigative reporter for The New York Times.

  • Christian Smalls and Derrick Palmer, warehouse workers who led the first successful unionization attempt at Amazon.

Derrick Palmer, in pink, and Christian Smalls, right, celebrated after workers voted to unionize an Amazon warehouse in Staten Island. The two friends spearheaded the push for the union.
DeSean McClinton-Holland for The New York Times

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Jodi Kantor contributed reporting.

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