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As President Trump demolishes the government’s biggest provider of foreign aid, the United States Agency for International Development, he is ending a 60-year bipartisan consensus about the best way to keep America safe from its enemies.
Michael Crowley, who covers U.S. foreign policy, and Stephanie Nolen, a global health reporter for The New York Times, discuss the rise and fall of U.S.A.I.D. — and American soft power.
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On today’s episode
Michael Crowley, a reporter covering the State Department and U.S. foreign policy for The New York Times.
Stephanie Nolen, a global health reporter for The New York Times.
Background reading
With his aid cutoff, President Trump has halted U.S.A.I.D.’s legacy of “acting with humanity.”
The agency’s workers are braced for the worst.
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